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    Posted: December/18/2008 at 3:49pm

MR11 vs. MR9 vs. MRX01 

From our dyno and track testing, we have found the MR11 and MR9 are almost identical fuels from a performance standpoint. We have also seen no need for map changes in between these three fuels for 99% of our customers. The only real exception to this would be AMA Dragbike super sport racing to squeeze the last .001 out of the bike during national competition. The average rider and racer will not notice the difference.  

VP Racing Fuels Claims:
MR11TM
Recommended for 4-stroke applications where octane requirements are fairly low, e.g. Supersport, Superbike, Formula Extreme, Supermoto and MX. Delivers up to 6% more power than pump gas and any basic non-oxygenated racing fuel. AMA-legal except for Supercross and Outdoor Nationals.

  • Color: Yellow
  • Oxygenated: Yes
  • Motor Octane: 90
  • Specific Gravity: 0.749 at 60° F

 

MR9
Designed for 4-stroke applications that can tolerate lower octane values. Makes up to 8% more power than pump gas and up to 2% more power than MRX01. Used by every champion in AMA Superbike Pro classes in 2004 and 2005, as well as the Supermoto, Supermoto Lite, and Supermoto Unlimited championships in 2005. Although currently not legal in AMA Pro Racing, MR9 passes fuel rules for AMA amateur racing as well as club-level racing, CCS, WERA, and AFM.

  • Color: Clear
  • Oxygenated: Yes
  • Motor Octane: 87
  • Specific Gravity: 0.718 at 60° F

 

MRX01
Recommended for 2- and 4-stroke applications. Delivers up to 6% more power than pump gas and any basic non-oxygenated racing fuel. Excellent for high compression road race applications. Can be mixed with MR9 to raise octane level for specific applications. Clean burning — leaves intake and exhaust valves virtually free of deposits for maximum airflow and performance from start to finish. AMA-legal except for Supercross and Outdoor Nationals.

  • Color: Pink
  • Oxygenated: Yes
  • Motor Octane: 98
  • Specific Gravity: 0.717 at 60° F

 

We have tested both fuels against MRX01, which both net about a 2% increase over MRX01.  Our test bike, 2008 stock-motored Hayabusa; we found (on a very hot day) MR11 made about 200 HP.  When MRX01 was dyno-ed the same day (within 1 hour), we found it made 196HP.  Both fuels (MR11 and MR9) are highly oxygenated, which causes them to have very fast burn rates, so nitrous use is HIGHLY discouraged. 

You will notice the MR11 has an octane rating of 90 while the octane rating of the MR9 is only 87. This has proven beneficial to the performance of the latest models (2007-2008 Hayabusa’s and GSX-R1000's) which come with increased compression ratios from the factory.

We are currently testing several varieties of the new AMA Dragbike-approved XXX Racing fuel for 2009. Initial results have been very impressive, especially for an environmentally friendly/“green” product. We will continue our testing, and post results soon.

 

Brock

 

Special thanks to Jason Gillum of Brock's Performance for the test results and information provided, using our in-house Dynojet model 250I dynamometer.

 

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Thanks Brock, because MR9 was getting scarce around here and I've never tried MR11. I'm very interested in how the XXX fuels work, especially if it doesn't have to be drained regularly.I run MR9 in my 14 and MRX01 in my 1397 Busa.
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Brock,

Can MRX01 be left in the tank or does it need to be drained?
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Drain it.
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  Does anyone know what the shelf life of mr11 is once opened.  I bought 5gal end of this last season and only used about 1 gal.  Im hoping it wont be bad by spring?
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I have found as long as it is in a sealed container and kept very cool...It lasts a couple of months...but I would not bet on it, sometimes it goes bad very quickly...and make sure its in the metal can it came in, because the plastic jugs make it break down sooner.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

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  Its sitting in the cold side of our shop so its about 10-30 on average so i hope it will still be good, or othewise what a waste.  Thanks for your input !

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No problem, let me know if you have any other questions.
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TP DROP IN KIT WHAT THE MOST REARWHEEL HP CAN I GET
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With about 50 dry shot of NOS with the 2mil kit. What's the best race fuel to run?
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07ZX14,

MRX01 should be great for you.

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You could see about 190 with good fuel.

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I know this may be an old question, but is it wrong to utilize 87 octane pump fuel, sunoco, or shell in 07 zx14?  I was told by others that it would not hurt my motor.
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On the 14s and the 08 Busas we actually use 89 octane, we have found that it works very well
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I'm trying to order some MR11 for out here in AZ. I'm assuming the MR11 runs great in the 08 Busa's right? 

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Hotboi74,

We use MR11 now since MR9 cannot be found, it works best with our track map and air filter removed at the dragstrip, works great in the 08 Busa.

Do not leave in tank, drain the best you can and run pump gas through the system.

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Hotboi74, yes it will work great.
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Yeah, I'm using the track map w/ 91 octane (ran a 9.49) and it is awesome!!!  Can't wait to get ahold of some MR11.  Thanks guys for the info.  

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I'm going to try race fuel in my 08 Busa,(Sunoco standard 110 octane with a specific gravity of 0.728 non-oxygenated leaded). Can I run this fuel straight or do I need to mix it with pump gas.
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The Sunoco or any high octane pump gas will kill power, we se better performance and higher HP #'s with 87 and 89 octane. If you do not have alot of compression you do not need the high octane.
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Running the MR11 in my 08 busa, is it ok to continue the stock spark plugs or should I colder or hotter?  Thanks. 
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Yes it is fine to use the stock plugs with it.
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anyone tried using Q16? 
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We have not tired Q16.

Here is VP's description:

NEW! Q16
Q16 will work well in any drag racing or circle track application -- naturally aspirated, nitrous or blowers. Q16 is highly oxygenated, requiring a 4-6% increase in fuel flow, which will make 3-5% more power than competitive 116 octane fuels. Q16's oxygenation will significantly expand the range of air/fuel ratio acceptability, so performance will be more consistent and won't vary as dramatically with altitude or density changes. For bracket racers, variations in ET from run to run will be substantially reduced. This added fuel flow also effectively increases its octane by 6-8 numbers above its standard ASTM octane rating.

  • Color: Yellow
  • Oxygenated: Yes
  • Motor Octane 116
  • Research Octane: 120+
  • Specific Gravity: .716 at 60° F

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Quote: Originally posted by Brock on June 08 09

We have not tired Q16.

Here is VP's description:

NEW! Q16
Q16 will work well in any drag racing or circle track application -- naturally aspirated, nitrous or blowers. Q16 is highly oxygenated, requiring a 4-6% increase in fuel flow, which will make 3-5% more power than competitive 116 octane fuels. Q16's oxygenation will significantly expand the range of air/fuel ratio acceptability, so performance will be more consistent and won't vary as dramatically with altitude or density changes. For bracket racers, variations in ET from run to run will be substantially reduced. This added fuel flow also effectively increases its octane by 6-8 numbers above its standard ASTM octane rating.

  • Color: Yellow
  • Oxygenated: Yes
  • Motor Octane 116
  • Research Octane: 120+
  • Specific Gravity: .716 at 60° F

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I ran Q16 in a 2006 Busa with Piston slip kit 13/1 compression this weekend at Maxton, NC 1 mi top speed run.  Temp was 97 degrees--very hot poor air.  My top speed after 6 runs on Sat & Sun was 172 mph.  I have hit 192 & 194 mph without nitrous in 2008 & 2007.   this weekend I had 4 size 20 jets screwed into throttle body's.  Nitrous didn't seem to help--just made for a bucking pull.My 1st run was all motor on Q16 & I was still in 5th gear at 169 mph.  Re-dyno the bike in Columbus today at 232 rwhp.  Sprockets were stock 17 front & 37 rear.  Thus I am not a fan of Q16.  My 190+ runs were using Q4.

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Is there a race fuel that can be left in the tank?
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not that i know of, any oxygenated fuels cannot be left in your tank.
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Do you reccomend MR11 or MRX01 for higher compression ratios? My 06 ZX-14 has the compression set at 13.4/1. Brian built the motor two years ago and advised me to use good quality 93 octane pump gas on the street.
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MR11 is 90 octane

MRX01 is 98 octane and works well with nitrous.

Use MRX01

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Quote: Originally posted by jasongillum on January 05 09

I have found as long as it is in a sealed container and kept very cool...It lasts a couple of months...but I would not bet on it, sometimes it goes bad very quickly...and make sure its in the metal can it came in, because the plastic jugs make it break down sooner.

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Hi,i call from Greece-Europe and i have one Question about who VP fuel is better and give more power to my BKING,leaded or unleaded(we dont have rules about fuels)Stock engine,brocks sortmeg,K&N,PCV,Dyna Arc-2,Factory stacks,Factory +4 advancer.Here we have in stock VP fuels; Mrx-01,MR9,MR11,C12,C14,SV-05,MS109,U4-2,REGARDS

 

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MR9 then MR11
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Does mr11 work just as well to clean injectors as mr9 did?
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Yes, it does, however, if you are looking for something a little less expensive we have had great results with our new Powercharge, you can go here and check it out.  http://prostores2.carrierzone.com/servlet/brockracing/-strse-2832/Fuel-System-Treatment/Detail 
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 Please tell me who said no more mr-9 ? MRI has it  for Mirock , mr-9 and other  Vp fuels will be available at track 2010  . 2 years ago i was told this so i called VP. thay told  me it was in stock and had no plans to stop making Mr-9.
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Anybody try the new MR-12? VP claims 5% more HP than MR-9!

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Brock,

Do you plan on testing MR12 v/s MR9 soon? I have stock motor 07 zx14.

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VP advertisement makes the new MR12 look really promising!
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I have not heard of any testing to be done but that could change.
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Hi EJ I can't get mr9 but I can get mr12 do I need a new map?will you have one soon? gsxr1000 2005 street mega head gasket trc pc3 web cam
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